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turbojoe Forum User

Joined: May 17, 2005 Posts: 662 Location: Fairfax County, VA
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Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 12:16 pm Post subject: Going bigger.. |
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Ok so i just bought my jeep less than 24 hours ago and im ready to go a little bigger. It came with a 4" procomp susp. lift and 31s.. looks decent but im used to 35s like my old wrangler.. so I have a few questions..
-whats a good company that makes a 2" body lift or does it even matter who makes it?
-what else will i need to keep the jeep running healthy with the 4 inch susp. lift and 2" body(sye?)
I really like the way it comes out with the 4" susp. lift and 2" body
here is one of my favorite local jeeps running the same setup

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LilItaly Forum User

Joined: Aug 23, 2003 Posts: 1139 Location: Centreville VA
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Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 1:35 pm Post subject: Re: Going bigger.. |
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i'm running a 4" suspension lift, 1" BL, 1" MML, 35" tires and i have no issues. i ended up buying Nth Degree adjustable rear control arms to help with the vibes. i drive my jeep almost everyday and have no issues. also offroad i haven't noticed no rubbing.
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turbojoe Forum User

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Joined: Nov 10, 2002 Posts: 14923 Location: Virginia Beach, VA
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Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 10:40 am Post subject: Re: Going bigger.. |
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| nerual13 wrote: |
| hmmm, I'm not a fan of a body lift higher than 1", but that's just me....you could do the JKS 1.25" body lift and then your 35's should fit I'm thinking.... |
It should fit nice and neat with that, and its enough you can run a falt belly skid, and do a MML to get ride of the TC drop that was spoken about.
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Joined: Aug 22, 2003 Posts: 11838 Location: Burke, VA
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fdezone Forum User

Joined: Sep 04, 2005 Posts: 421 Location: Fredericksburg, VA
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Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 12:28 pm Post subject: Re: Going bigger.. |
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| LilItaly wrote: |
| ...I'm running a 4" suspension lift, 1" BL, 1" MML, 35" tires and I have no issues... |
I agree with LilItaly that with a 5" lift and the proper wheel/tire combo you should be able to run 35's comfortably. The extra inch or two from a taller BL would just raise your COG unnecessarily. Since you shouldn't be going any bigger than those 35's your wanting without upgrading the axles, the extra height you'll gain is moot.
Personally, if it were me, for starters I would flat fender it and trim the rear (maybe even comp cut but keep it street legal), remove the T/C drop and install a SYE. You're also gonna have to re-gear to recoup some of that loss power.
I love this look, but with built in flares to keep it street legal. She'd also need side markers.

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turbojoe Forum User

Joined: May 17, 2005 Posts: 662 Location: Fairfax County, VA
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Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 12:26 pm Post subject: Re: Going bigger.. |
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OK... so instead of body lifts i have been reading into the coil spacers and i really like this idea a lot better. What is the best kit to go with and also
what do you think about these.. out of my price range but still seemed pretty cool..
www.4wd.com/productdet...id=5572550
but yeah what 2" coil spacer is good?
Thanks
Joe
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fdezone Forum User

Joined: Sep 04, 2005 Posts: 421 Location: Fredericksburg, VA
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Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 2:53 pm Post subject: Re: Going bigger.. |
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The ACOS were developed by ORGS. I believe JKS sells them now and others, like Rusty's, have their own versions. But, like you said, they're a bit pricey. They offer around 1.5-2 inches of lift with the option of fine-tuning them up to 3-3.5 inches if needed with the addition of bumpers, winches, cages, etc. I wouldn't go that high though. I ran a set in my 96 XJ. Never experienced any problems and they looked pretty trick back then.
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heavyMETALjeeper Forum User

Joined: Sep 19, 2006 Posts: 672 Location: Chantilly, va
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Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 10:56 am Post subject: Re: Going bigger.. |
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Ok, this is for someone who said bodylifts dont sheer off. When i was 17 (im 22 now) i bought a 88 yota truck with a 3 inch body lift, and 33 BFG ATs on it. One day i was driving in the snow to work. a huge hardbody worktruck was parked in the road. I tried to stop, but my tires locked up and i rearended him. I was only doin about 25-35, but my bodylift sheered off and sent the front half of my truck into a 45 degree pitch and it stayed there. So the accident wouldnt have been so bad to me,, but the extra force of the body coming off the frame and going into the air cuased my airbags not to deploy. And i wound up with 30 stiches in my head, and fractured 3rd lower lumbar in my back (a broken back). i was bed ridden for 3 weeks. I still have a huge scar on my forehead, and my backs aches constantly still also. I will never touch another vehicle with anything more than 1 inch of body lift. And i suggest no one else do it either, unless you like alot of pain (oh and by the way the yota was totatled)
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Hoss Forum User

Joined: Jun 07, 2005 Posts: 558 Location: Herndon, VA
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Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 11:16 am Post subject: Re: Going bigger.. |
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| heavyMETALjeeper wrote: |
| Ok, this is for someone who said bodylifts dont sheer off. When i was 17 (im 22 now) i bought a 88 yota truck with a 3 inch body lift, and 33 BFG ATs on it. One day i was driving in the snow to work. a huge hardbody worktruck was parked in the road. I tried to stop, but my tires locked up and i rearended him. I was only doin about 25-35, but my bodylift sheered off and sent the front half of my truck into a 45 degree pitch and it stayed there. So the accident wouldnt have been so bad to me,, but the extra force of the body coming off the frame and going into the air cuased my airbags not to deploy. And i wound up with 30 stiches in my head, and fractured 3rd lower lumbar in my back (a broken back). i was bed ridden for 3 weeks. I still have a huge scar on my forehead, and my backs aches constantly still also. I will never touch another vehicle with anything more than 1 inch of body lift. And i suggest no one else do it either, unless you like alot of pain (oh and by the way the yota was totatled) |
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ToBlave Forum User

Joined: Oct 13, 2004 Posts: 935 Location: Fairfax, VA
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Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 1:10 pm Post subject: Re: Going bigger.. |
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| heavyMETALjeeper wrote: |
| Ok, this is for someone who said bodylifts dont sheer off. When i was 17 (im 22 now) i bought a 88 yota truck with a 3 inch body lift, and 33 BFG ATs on it. One day i was driving in the snow to work. a huge hardbody worktruck was parked in the road. I tried to stop, but my tires locked up and i rearended him. I was only doin about 25-35, but my bodylift sheered off and sent the front half of my truck into a 45 degree pitch and it stayed there. So the accident wouldnt have been so bad to me,, but the extra force of the body coming off the frame and going into the air cuased my airbags not to deploy. And i wound up with 30 stiches in my head, and fractured 3rd lower lumbar in my back (a broken back). i was bed ridden for 3 weeks. I still have a huge scar on my forehead, and my backs aches constantly still also. I will never touch another vehicle with anything more than 1 inch of body lift. And i suggest no one else do it either, unless you like alot of pain (oh and by the way the yota was totatled) |
Most tummy tucks won't fit unless you do a BBL over 1 inch. None require more than 2 inches.
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ToBlave Forum User

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Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 1:15 pm Post subject: Re: Going bigger.. |
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| fdezone wrote: |
| LilItaly wrote: |
| ...I'm running a 4" suspension lift, 1" BL, 1" MML, 35" tires and I have no issues... |
I agree with LilItaly that with a 5" lift and the proper wheel/tire combo you should be able to run 35's comfortably. The extra inch or two from a taller BL would just raise your COG unnecessarily. Since you shouldn't be going any bigger than those 35's your wanting without upgrading the axles, the extra height you'll gain is moot.
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It is not the suspension lift or BBL that raises your Center Of Gravity... Its the bigger tires you stuff under the vehicle.
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MDJeepThing Forum User

Joined: Dec 29, 2005 Posts: 2643 Location: Walkersville, MD
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Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 1:30 pm Post subject: Re: Going bigger.. |
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| ToBlave wrote: |
| fdezone wrote: |
| LilItaly wrote: |
| ...I'm running a 4" suspension lift, 1" BL, 1" MML, 35" tires and I have no issues... |
I agree with LilItaly that with a 5" lift and the proper wheel/tire combo you should be able to run 35's comfortably. The extra inch or two from a taller BL would just raise your COG unnecessarily. Since you shouldn't be going any bigger than those 35's your wanting without upgrading the axles, the extra height you'll gain is moot.
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It is not the suspension lift or BBL that raises your Center Of Gravity... Its the bigger tires you stuff under the vehicle. |
A suspension lift does raise your COG. Anything that is sprung weight goes higher.
However, I would rather have a disease named after me than run a 3" body lift. I does nothing to help your articulation like a suspension lift. You have to relocate your tcase shifter, your stick shift won't be where it's supposed to be, your fan won't line up with your radiator.
IMHO nothing more than 1" of BL with a MML which will let you tummy tuck. Anymore is for mall crawling, not rock crawling.
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ToBlave Forum User

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Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 2:21 pm Post subject: Re: Going bigger.. |
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| MDJeepThing wrote: |
| ToBlave wrote: |
| fdezone wrote: |
| LilItaly wrote: |
| ...I'm running a 4" suspension lift, 1" BL, 1" MML, 35" tires and I have no issues... |
I agree with LilItaly that with a 5" lift and the proper wheel/tire combo you should be able to run 35's comfortably. The extra inch or two from a taller BL would just raise your COG unnecessarily. Since you shouldn't be going any bigger than those 35's your wanting without upgrading the axles, the extra height you'll gain is moot.
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It is not the suspension lift or BBL that raises your Center Of Gravity... Its the bigger tires you stuff under the vehicle. |
A suspension lift does raise your COG. Anything that is sprung weight goes higher.
However, I would rather have a disease named after me than run a 3" body lift. I does nothing to help your articulation like a suspension lift. You have to relocate your tcase shifter, your stick shift won't be where it's supposed to be, your fan won't line up with your radiator.
IMHO nothing more than 1" of BL with a MML which will let you tummy tuck. Anymore is for mall crawling, not rock crawling. |
How many people you see driving around in a lifted jeep with their stock tires still attached? *que circus music*
Tires give you the true lift, the suspension and body lifts are to be able to stuff larger tires. Body lifts... depends on what I am doing with my Jeep. For down South mud bugging or beach running... body lift, even 3 inches is reasonable to stuff larger tires. For rock crawling, probably not the best choice. Got to love America, not everyone is the same and they all do not live and play in the same area.
Two words: Compression and Droop. All suspension lifts sacrifice Compression to achieve Droop.
Motor Mount Lifts (MML) cause an equal engine oiling problem due to the engine being canted toward the rear. Tummy tuck helps to lesses the engine cant problem.
Radiator fan: what happens to the fan clutch in deep water? I suggest electric (Ford Tauras mod) with a switch to turn them on and off as obsticals occure. Negates your need to line the engine fan up the the readiator when doing a BBL, MML, and or T-Case lift.
Lesson to be learned is that there are pros and cons to vehicle mods and most people are willing to vouch for the pros while neglecting to acknowledge the cons. How hard is it to replace a u-joint in a Tom Woods (cardigan joint) driveshaft verses the stock non-SYE?
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